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Saphira
 Posted: Jul 29 2017, 10:33 PM
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Hello, TSC!

It's been quite a while, and I've missed you guys! With the newest Doctor announced and general future excitement of Doctor Who, I've been considering getting things going again. So with the site re-opening, I'm going to be spending time in the next week or two cleaning and re-doing parts of the board. To help me, please reply and mention which characters you'd like to keep or archive!

In addition to clean-up, I'll eventually be getting around to a new skin and graphics. This is sort of secondary to the general clean-up to me, mostly because my first goal is to get the site a little more playable and less cluttered with old, outdated things. Also, I'm limited with speed for things at the moment because I'm still healing from a broken arm. (Just a couple more weeks left!)

Major changes that will almost definitely happen:
  • New skin/graphics, perhaps layouts
  • Finally turning on doHTML for regular usage throughout the site
  • Cleaning up the forums, archiving things
  • Updating rules, canon lists, etc.
  • Time jump up to perhaps the end portion of Series 10
  • Streamlining the plot and usergroups
Negotiable/flexible things to consider and discuss:
  • A new site name (Doctauri is keen on this, as it currently suits Nine and Ten better)
  • Perhaps an entirely new board - though our old stuff won't move with us
  • Getting rid of the Rogue Time Agency as a group
  • Getting rid of the Forge as a group
  • Getting rid of U.N.I.T. as a group
  • Depending on returning members, possibly re-hauling Torchwood Cardiff
  • Changing the Time Lords/Gallifrey plot to either more resemble or completely match the show for Series 8 and after
In addition to replying with your character information, feel free to discuss any or all of the things I listed above. You guys have all been here for a while and I value your input!
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Hermes Bradford
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 10:51 AM
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Ohmigosh I hope you get better soon! Broken arms are no fun http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/sad.gif

And of course, if you need extra help with anything (because that sounds like a LOT to do), I'd be happy to help in any way I can!

Okay okay *deep breath* here comes my armada:

· Al Harrison
· Arianna Delacruz
· Claudia Tommasi
· Connor Reiv
· Gabriel St. Laorden
· Giulio Raymer
· Hermes Bradford
· Ivan Leroy
· Lydia Stark
· Noah Villers
· Richard Prescott
· Seth Ashbourne
· Violet Stafford

Now for the rest http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

I'm honestly happy with any changes you'd like to go for! Your ideas and graphics and plots have been absolutely amazing all these years, so yes<3 I just have a veeeery small question, though: why do you want to get rid of the rogue time agents, the forge and UNIT (I haven't seen season 10 okay, I don't know stuff http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif ) as a group?

I mean, I understand we've barely gotten members there, I can see the point of getting rid of the member group to an extent. But have you considered, as an alternative option, revamping a bit the factions? Maybe giving them a juicy subplot/arc that could attract more attention? (Though I get that playing villains isn't everyone's cup of tea)

All in all, I think the Rogues, and the Forge (and UNIT) are awesome factions with lots of potential, and thus are deserving of their own member group. But you know I'll support all your decisions no matter what<3 Everything is absolutely great and I am down for anything<3 I'm really excited for all the new changes, and think they're fantastic!

As for the other flexible things you wanted us to discuss: (TLDR, I love them all tbh)

· Having a new site name seems cool! And I support the idea of a new board too (but, you know, I'd be okay if these don't happen in the end) and of course it makes 120% sense if the name is going to change. My characters' recent past is constantly revamped because of old members and plots that die (I view this as a good thing!) so it's no biggie, tbh! (JUST, YOU KNOW, DON'T DELETE THIS OLD BOARD PLS?). And also, could you keep the storage forum in the new site, if you finally decide to make it? It's hella useful for master lists and gif storage and etc

(Also it would be amazing if you'd consider moving the banned IPs over to the new site, but I get that it's adding even more work for you, so I understand)

· Torchwood Cardiff: That sounds cool! Have you listened to the new Torchwood Audio Theatre stories (Big Finish)? /totally random question

· Time Lords: that sounds cool too! That opens up possibilities for any awesome canon arc they might be doing in future seasons regarding Gallifrey!

Wow, this got long.

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Sally Sparrow
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 01:38 PM
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I'd love to keep my two characters that I had when I was last active on the site:
  • Sally Sparrow
  • Michael Dashiell
I would also be glad to help with whatever I can to get things going again, with any changes you would like to implement - graphics, plot writing, etc.

As far as the changes, all the major definite changes I am definitely on board with, and I think the new site name/plot/etc. changing to better match the current show timeline makes sense. On removing groups, I understand wanting to consolidate, but I also wouldn't want to lose the plot opportunities that these groups presented.

My suggestion to make sure that all groups get activity and have a larger plot to work within as well as relationship-driven plots, that there is an over-riding plot specific to each group to keep things moving (esp. for time agency, rogue agents, the different Torchwood groups/etc.) This could be related to overall site-wide plot where that makes sense, but could also be separate. But, of course, whatever you decide will be great.

I am so looking forward to being back and all of the updates coming!

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Sebastian MacBride
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 01:54 PM
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Hey Saph! Welcome back and I do hope the rest of the healing process goes well - it's no fun having a broken arm and wishing a speedy recovery!

Keeping:

Graham Robinson
Sebastian McBride (May been in need of a revamp http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif)
Quentin Wescott (going to end up having to rename and revamp him too)

In terms of the site, completely cool with the changes. Apologies for the short answer - I don't have access yet to my computer as I'm currently on holiday http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif But when I return - would love to help out in any shape or form!
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Doctauri
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 05:56 PM
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I'm still here - always here - in one way or another. I work about nine or ten hours a day so my activity - while consistent - is limited. This is kind of my fault because what I meant as a cbox cheer because we're FINALLY getting a female Doctor ended up exciting a bunch of people more than I meant it to http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

Anyway

We don't have to go with a new name - I'm only keen on it because of the history tied to this board and how we might want to make a clean break.

As for the faction removal - an idea might be consolidation rather than removal. Maybe break us all down to a few non-faction groups. If people wanted to play with Forge or UNIT characters they still could; they may just have to cope without a faction 'leader' which has always been a hindrance for us in the past - people joining and taking up canons or leaders (since some of our leaders aren't canons) and then not doing anything with them.

Our board is themed around Time Travel - Doctor Who is unique in that ANYTHING ever done in the history of the show or the books or the cartoons or the audio plays is canon in that it happened - and then maybe unhappened http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif Maybe we should tweak the board to better reflect that. Maybe something along the lines of...

Time Sensitives - that would cover Time Lords, aliens and factions with time travel like the Daleks, Cybermen, etc
Children of Time - that would cover past companions, current companions and friends of the Doctor
Champions of Time - that would cover OC's and characters that never met the Doctor but are still canon
Horde of Travesties - that would cover evil OC's and villains who have either never met the Doctor or don't have access to time travel

These are all rough - but they reference the show and might be a way to slim down all the faction bloat we have while still allowing people to play what they want. It'd just be up to them to keep their characters active - rather than spamming faction events that nobody seems to get involved with.
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Saphira
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 06:47 PM
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So glad to see you guys all around! <3

The main reason I thought of getting rid of those groups was because we'd usually have 2-4 of each at the absolute most active of them. But I'm not completely set on that - and we could do something like Doctauri was saying where we combine groups? I like that sort of direction - though my OCD likes more strictly define things xD - so that's definitely an option too! Maybe something like:
    Time Lords - self-explanatory
    Time Travellers - both canon and OC's who can or have travelled; companions, time agents, etc.
    Protectors of Earth - all agencies of earth like Torchwood, UNIT, Forge.
Maybe something more themed like Children of Gallifrey, Children of Time, Children of Earth (Children of Beyond for Aliens). Or whatever else. Or just leaving them the way they are, whatever we want xD Might be simplest, regardless of clutter.

If we move to a new site, then yes, we can definitely have those forums, I can move over the banned IPs, and we'll leave this as an archive site. So no worries there! I'm kinda leaning towards this for now just to update the layouts and general look of things regardless. Plus there will be plot changes to retcon a bit (Time Lord stuff), and it might be easiest. I might have already looked at skins too despite the fact that I said probably not right away -coughs-

But yes, all great ideas, and I look forward to implementing more!

Any ideas on a new name, if we go that route?
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Rebecca Ashbourne
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 06:54 PM
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I'd definitely like to keep Rebecca here, and probably Merriman Hawkins as well, although he's seen zero action, so I wouldn't mind revamping him along with the site either.

As long as Rebecca can stay Seth's messed up little sister, I'm not particular on what factions we have.

I'm so beyond excited to see all of you. <3<3

(Also, I'm fine and will support a name change, but Time, Space & Chips does kind of relate a bit to Bill too and that made me happy enough to want to comment on it.)

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Doctauri
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 06:59 PM
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The compression of the factions rather than the removal would make it easier because it would require not only less effort on our parts (no need to reclassify people or force others to re-write their plots) but makes future plotting easier since it would mean that (even if we have a faction without a leader) people could still 'align' with the factions they want.

Plus, when new members join, it would probably be easier for them to find others to write with if they aren't categorized. And, though I agree that my inner OCD want's EVERYONE with a faction tag so I can label them like the filthy scum that they are... it's not really feasible with such a 'new' board.

Sorting the groups into 'children' definitely fits the theme - maybe Children of the Universe for non-Earth folks? As for a new name - we could always go the classic route

TARDIS - Time and Random Drabbles In Space

or

Chips, Fish Fingers and Jelly Babies

or

Champions of Time

or

Shada (the Time Lord prison - we could set the whole skin up like it's a prison and we're all jailed here writing plots lol)

or

Bigger On Every Side

Lot's of names to choose from.

For myself, I'm planning to broaden my horizons a bit and put ALL the Doctor's out there for plotting - I've done a few plots with One, Six and Eight but usually only played the current Doctor. A suggestion I have is that we remove the 'current dates' feature and go with 'all of time and space' allowing people to play not only past versions of their characters - but future versions if they choose. Maybe allowing for plots where future people cross over with past people and so on.
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Michael Dashiell
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 07:20 PM
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I definitely appreciate having a forum where past and future events can be played out, but I have to say that I like having a set time frame when the majority of key events are taking place as far as the site is concerned. For me, it gives a framework to roleplay within, and to me that encourages my creativity more than the overwhelming of every time and every space. Plus, a sitewide timeline and plot to me provide more opportunities to get everyone on the site plotting and roleplaying together. To me, it makes it harder to come up with ideas when thinking about "all of time and space" than if there's a general "this is the time period, this is the location, this is what is going on" that my character can work within.

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Doctauri
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 07:25 PM
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It wouldn't be the first time I go too far too fast and try to uncomplicate things by making them MORE complicated. So feel free to take any/all suggestions I have with a grain of salt, a pill of aspirin and a quart of vodka
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Saphira
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 07:38 PM
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Oh we'll definitely keep the Torchwoods and stuff around, and I'm sure Sylver's still loving that plot. So it's all good, Ivy!

As far as the name, we miiight go ahead and keep this one then. It's serving nostalgia purposes for us old members, it does apparently spark some recognition around the rp world otherwise, and it does also fit Bill! (If we did do a name change, I do like Champions of Time xD)

Maybe the Children names for four main factions? And we'll include a mini profile field to show which group individuals are in for further reference, like Torchwood 3 and so on. (By the way, I haven't listened to the audios yet, but I wiiiiill!)

And I definitely agree with you, Hope. Present-day is where the main story framework takes place, like in DW, and the time travel is great fun/extra stuff that revolves around it. They always return to now. So that's not something that would change very much, I don't think. But we can definitely come up with some more long-term typed ideas. We usually left it as sandbox with a few major and specific events for modern day. We need to come up with something in the middle that helps drive things forward. (I did have a Torchwood idea that would allow this at one point...)

But -grabs the vodka- We're good http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
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Doctauri
 Posted: Jul 30 2017, 07:46 PM
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See? Saph knows how to deal with me -nod-
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Hermes Bradford
 Posted: Jul 31 2017, 05:11 AM
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QUOTE (doctauri)
This is kind of my fault because what I meant as a cbox cheer because we're FINALLY getting a female Doctor ended up exciting a bunch of people more than I meant it to


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yes you did


QUOTE (ivy)
As long as Rebecca can stay Seth's messed up little sister, I'm not particular on what factions we have.


OMG pls<3 /sob.


okay onto the good stuff.


    factions without leader - okay this is just my two cents on this but don't take me too seriously, i honestly am cool with anything you'd like to do, and I'll support all your decisions! But in regards to the leaders of factions, I'm going to explain how I see things:

    Most of the leaders of our factions are canon characters that appeared for a very short while in past seasons or spin-offs and maybe the fact that these characters already have an assigned history and face-claim and personality can detract people from considering them. Take the Time Agency, for example: you had the 'mysterious commander' at first, then we had Wolfe playing Wolfe for a few years (first member TA leader, if i'm not mistaken), then Wolfe left and we had Fran playing Michael for a while. Now Hope, twice.

    There was hardly ever a time when we were active that there wasn't a TA leader.

    What I think worked really well in comparison to other factions was exactly that: the leader wasn't necessarily canon. And when the member playing it left the site, we had a completely new leader, whose past and fc and personality wasn't restricted to what had been played before. Now there's a chance that I may be very wrong about this. But it may be worth a shot?

    But of course, on the pro side of having an admin-driver NPC leader is the fact that you can sort of M!A events and give players the choice to obey rules, (or disobey them, and then have them pay a small price afterwards).

    factions and member groups - (again, i'm 120% cool with anything you'd like to do!!!!) and I'm aware this may only happen to me, but I feel like getting a character sorted into one of those old factions is like being sorted into Hufflepuff, or Slytherin, or saying I'm team Cap, vs team Iron Man. Like, when I'm playing Gabriel I'm like 'yay go rogues!' and then I'm playing Giulio and i'm like 'Go UNIT!!!' . Okay we could be "sorted" differently, and there's no reason why I shouldn't feel the same way, but... i dunno. It's kinda different. It's having that little color that represents who your character is. Having that little banner beneath the Icon saying 'this is ur character's place'. Like, if you decide to combine all agents in one place, the Time Agents are completely different from the Rogues. They have different leaders, they have different codes, they operate differently, they have different teams, and different plots. (This is my OCD talking too, my brain thinks uh-oh, messy) but y'know, it's not like I'm going to lose it or anything if you decide to change. Like I said, I'l welcome any change you decide to implement! http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

    QUOTE (doctauri)
    Plus, when new members join, it would probably be easier for them to find others to write with if they aren't categorized.


    Also, I don't think categorizing people into factions makes it difficult to plot. I have Gabriel, who belongs to the Rogues, and he has plots with practically every other member group. You just have the bonus that, when you see a character with a certain color, you can immediately know if this is someone you're likely to see everyday at work, someone you might want to watch out for, etc

    But, like I said, I'll be totes happy with any change! HONEST

    Why some factions have almost zero people -

    QUOTE (hope)
    My suggestion to make sure that all groups get activity and have a larger plot to work within as well as relationship-driven plots, that there is an over-riding plot specific to each group to keep things moving (esp. for time agency, rogue agents, the different Torchwood groups/etc.) This could be related to overall site-wide plot where that makes sense, but could also be separate.


    THIS

    this is absolutely amazing and if it sounds like too much work I would love to help with this<3 In fact, I can't think of a TSChipper who doesn't have amazing ideas, we could even craft, draft and write out a great arc for each faction all together<3 it could be SO exciting omg.

    roleplaying with past versions of the doctor / all of time and space forums -

    QUOTE (hope)
    but I have to say that I like having a set time frame when the majority of key events are taking place as far as the site is concerned. For me, it gives a framework to roleplay within, and to me that encourages my creativity more than the overwhelming of every time and every space. Plus, a sitewide timeline and plot to me provide more opportunities to get everyone on the site plotting and roleplaying together. To me, it makes it harder to come up with ideas when thinking about "all of time and space" than if there's a general "this is the time period, this is the location, this is what is going on" that my character can work within


    I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.

    why not dedicate a full category to the past and another to the future + alternate universes? (I'm loving the alternate universes these days omg, don't take that awayyyy! http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

    (And BTW Doctauri, I would love a thread with your Eight!)

    OKAY I WAS TYPING UP STUFF AS I READ EACH POST SO THOUGHTS ARE GOING TO GET MESSY FROM HERE

    QUOTE (saph)
    Maybe the Children names for four main factions? And we'll include a mini profile field to show which group individuals are in for further reference, like Torchwood 3 and so on.


    OKAY YES

    ...

    me neither i just had to ask http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif (but I will too!!!)

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Saphira
 Posted: Jul 31 2017, 11:27 PM
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Faction Leaders - I think more of what I would be going for (Doctauri included) is to make it where some of the groups can thrive a little better without having their leader around if we happen not to have a player in general. A bit more independence. That being said, I totally agree with you about the Time Agency being one that actually works. I'm perfectly willing to leave it open so that Torchwood London and UNIT have original leaders! I'd prefer to have Nimrod stay in charge of the Forge - but we can always have an assistant director who takes care of things otherwise that's an OC.

I'll have the past, future, and AU probably as their own forum too! Might as well draw more attention to it in its own space.

As far as the usergroups go, is everyone ok with the four "Children of" groups with the breakdown of faction/job/etc. as a fill-in for the mini-profile?
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Carys Barton
 Posted: Aug 1 2017, 01:39 AM
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For now, I would like to keep everyone.
-Carys Barton
-Mark O'Connell
-Maggie Wilkins
-Petra Zeed

I will write up a more detailed opinion when I can get to a keyboard, but basically I will go with anything. As much as I love the factions, I can see the ease in consolidation. http://files.b1.jcink.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif

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